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But consumerism is a gilded tomb that many feel requires mandatory, constant participation, regardless of the societal risk of being “called out” as a fraud. The users of r/RepLadies are still working on making their peace with that. RepLadies is a self-described “happy place” for discussion about replicas and fashion at any level. If you’re entering with fake, counterfeit goods then do NOT expect to have a free pass through Immigration/Customs. Every metallic piece on an authentic purse must have a Louis Vuitton engraving.

But, for the average young woman, the increasing price of designer goods is simply unattainable. It only takes a brief scroll through some of Instagram and TikTok’s youngest cohort of influencers to notice the influx of content creators parading luxury labels in almost all of their posts. This is also layered with the mounting pressure for young people to don designer goods.

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Inspecting the quality of the logo is also what authentication experts advise. Looking inside the bag should give you more signs of the bag’s authenticity. If the logo and the label attached inside look off, that is most likely a fake bag. A fake designer bag is one that closely resembles the original bag in its design, has a label that purports it was created by a popular bag artist, but is made from cheap materials.

“At the time, I didn’t realise the seriousness of this,” the now 45-year-old told the court. One of the employees, accused of orchestrating the counterfeiting ring, was just 18 when he began working at Hermès. Depicted as a sack, usually tan, tied off and displaying a dollar sign. May be filled with coins, as most platforms show a rounded bag.

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It was during this raid they found more than 300 bags including fake versions of brands such as Prada, Dior, Burberry, Givenchy and Longchamp. A 2023 survey found one-third of EU citizens would consider buying fakes if the originals are too expensive, rising to half of young people. Indicam is calling for the EU to harmonise rules on dealing with seized fakes, with some countries currently making brands pay for their storage or destruction. Once in the Campania region surrounding Naples, final finishing takes place in workshops using cheap illegal labour. Labels are frequently shipped separately and sewn on last, making it more difficult for customs to spot fakes. While less lucrative than selling drugs, counterfeiting generates cash, helps launder drug money and is relatively low-risk, with jail sentences far below those for more violent crimes.

On the fake bag the inner stamps are hard to see because the inferior leather is shaggier and less smooth. This applies mostly to non-black Park totes because the black Park totes have a black inner suede where it’s hard to see the stamping in the first place. But they hold their value better and are less likely to get you in legal trouble!

He says there are several telltale signs of a fake but agrees they are getting harder to spot. “The higher the value [of the bag] the more we pay attention,” he says. The counterfeit “industry”, he says, is “like cybersecurity, it’s constantly moving, it’s constantly dynamic”.

If you have money to blow on a bag, just get one that’s of good quality, something not too common while describing your lifestyle perfectly. Don’t pretend you have more money than you do because there lies the road to misery. Wallace showed two Chanel bags that appeared similar in quality. Both appeared to be made of Chanel’s “Caviar” leather, but the leather’s softness was the giveaway clue. The problem is that the copywriters have a small fraction of the training that the more expert people have.

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Manufacturers of counterfeit items barely replicate the font styles and embossing of the text in a single item flawlessly. It’s recently come to my attention that even The Real Real has been found to be selling fake bags! It turns out that workers called “copywriters” are authenticating bags instead of professional authenticators. These copywriters are given limited training on how to spot fakes before posting them online. That’s really disappointing because The Real Real was supposed to be one of the top secondhand sites you could buy from. Over the years I’ve developed a taste for designer bags, much to my husband’s chagrin!

To detect a fashion fake, sometimes you have to trust your nose. And something wasn’t smelling quite right with the Louis Vuitton limited edition Epi Kabuki Speedy bag on the table in front of us. To spot a fake Tory Burch bag, check the model information paper with it.

Go to Chloé and hold the real bag in your hands, check out all the details, and THEN order it from a secondhand store. That way you’ll have some idea of what you are looking for. Also, only buy bags that come with the Authentication Card so you can compare it to the number on the bag. My bag didn’t come with the card so there was no way for me to check the serial number. With the right contacts and social-media accounts, anyone can get a fake bag, but access to high-quality replicas is becoming more rarefied. RepLadies has, for some months now, been splintering into private social channels, where the savviest replica buyers seem to spend most of their time.

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I also couldn’t really read the authentication number on the inside of the bag. But the biggest clue that it wasn’t real was that the inside of the bag was black and not the light nude color I’d seen on all the legitimate seller sites. BUT these were all pretty subtle imperfections (besides the inside bag color). Like I said, the bag totally looked legit on the surface. Everything should be of the highest quality in a designer bag.

Going down to Puerta Maya pier on Wednesday and will check out the prices at Rags and Rocks. Don’t know about Cosumel but they sell those purses at the Dulles Town Center Mall about five minutes from my home. You’d think the designers would have tried to stop it, especially when they are sold about thirty yards from Norstroms where they sell the “real thing.” But I have to tell you . They really are beautiful and the prices are nothing short of fantastic. Have never bought one myself and have no idea how they hold up but it really is hard to tell them apart from the “real thing.”

Legal battles like the case between LVMH and eBay have also been fought where French courts awarded victory and compensation to LVMH for the sale of counterfeit goods online. Even insiders aren’t immune, as we learned with the imprisonment of a group of former Hermes employees who were caught up in a counterfeit ring involving the production of fake Hermes bags. Super fakes are counterfeit handbags with a high degree of attention to detail, effectively replicating the original designer’s craftsmanship process and creating a near-undetectable fake.

If they don’t feel guilty about their boss copping the bag, they wonder about child labor or ethical consumption around fast fashion. Things get weird around the QC (Quality Control) posts, where recent or prospective buyers ask other Redditors to rank the items they’ve already bought or are thinking of buying. But follow what your bag heart tells you 😊” on a faux Louis Vuitton satchel or “The heart is slightly off on bottom left but I am the person who notices when someone puts on eyeliner!!!

If you have sensitive skin, you’ll see be exposing yourself to allergic reactions and may spend money treating this. A total of10 people are on trial, seven of them former workers at the company who are alleged to have made dozens of fake bags sold for tens of thousands of euros. Former staff of the luxury French brand Hermès have appeared in court accused of faking designer handbags including the celebrated “Birkin” named after the British singer Jane Birkin. Brands could speak up about these type of counterfeiting repercussions to their followers if they want to push back the wave of popularity in counterfeit handbags.

Dumas instructed his workers to make a bag with pockets for her and the Birkin was born. Of course I took it upon myself to try and try in my own way. I decide that for a week, I would tote it around everyday and see what I noticed in others and in myself. Counterfeiters have taken notice of the QAT and often include it in their Prada knock-offs. While the existence of a QAT does not guarantee the bag is real, the absence of one does prove it is not.

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We peered inside, counting the pockets, noting the branded lining, the tag’s shape and font, the metalware on the zippers. It was exhilarating to know the bag was worth nearly as much as our car. My family stood looking at one another, speechless, as the woman climbed down a metal ladder into the dark bowel of her store. A minute later, a fluorescent light flickered on and we heard some shuffling of plastic down below.

Counterfeiters often use low-quality materials to create fake bags and sell them at significantly lower prices than genuine products. You look at an LV and wonder if the person carrying it could actually afford it. You might even take it a step further if you know designer bags and check for signs that it could be fake. Harsh, yeah fake bags online, but that’s one of the reasons people buy designer things anyway. Aesthetics and quality aside, people tote a crazy expensive bag as a status symbol. If you have the symbol but don’t really have the status then it’s not going to be judgment you want to hear.

Before purchasing a counterfeit designer handbag or cheap knockoff, you should consider who you are supporting with such purchases. Both types of handbags are sold by criminal organizations that also sexually exploit women and children through human trafficking. In addition, the proceeds usually support terrorist activity.

Before making a purchase, be sure to research how and where the bags are produced to make an informed decision. “The truth is, there’s never been more counterfeits that are better, the superfakes, like today,” Davis said. As high-end luxury brands including Hermes, Chanel, and Prada have boosted their prices in recent years, many consumers turned to deceivingly high-quality replicas for a fraction of the price.

However, upon closer examination, she discovered there was a serious problem, as per a report in Newsweek. Ashlee thought she had bought an original bag of French luxury brand Hermes for approximately $7 (Rs 587). However, when she returned home, she realised that it was a fake one. Polene’s popularity has been increasing steadily over the past few years, but especially more recently with its fame on TikTok. Unfortunately, with that popularity, comes the trickiness of navigating secondhand marketplaces for a great deal on the brand.

Ultimately, this problem can be fixed only if management commits to make it happen. Management needs to acknowledge that long-term success is built on the credibility of the authentication, and having fakes continue to show up for sale works against that. Based on what we’ve seen so far, it appears that only pressure from consumers and investors will create the change that’s needed. In at least one case detailed in court records, investigators said Smatsorabudh purchased an authentic ruby red Celine Ring handbag from a department store in October. Within weeks, she returned an inauthentic bag, they said.

At the same time, the world’s growing luxury fashion obsession has spawned a burgeoning shadow marketplace for fashion fakes. Counterfeiting is a “highly, highly profitable business,” said financial crime investigator Elke Biechele. Over the past decade, she said, it’s estimated the total market value of counterfeit goods has grown to exceed the GDP of large economies like France and Germany. “The amounts of money involved in counterfeiting are just completely mind blowing,” she said. It is illegal under French law not only to buy or sell counterfeit good but also to own them. Apparently French law enforcement is trained to spot a fake.

Brand new Louis Vuitton bags never go on sale or sold at any kind of discount stores, wholesales or outlets. The company does not authorize other stores to sell their new products. If a price seems too good (read “cheap”) to be true, probably best to stay away. You aren’t breaking the law if you only purchase a counterfeit handbag or a knockoff designer handbag. However, if you attempt to resell a counterfeit handbag, you can legally be charged.

I have mostly seen stuff about fake Rolex watches and that was mostly about how to avoid being ripped off. Usually they are looking for comercial quantities of the fake stuff and most confiscations are those who are recieving said item via post. Customs probably won’t look twice at a bag you are using. In saying that customs can be fickle and sometimes you just happen to be there on the wrong day. General rule when it comes to travelling, if you fear losing it, don’t take it.

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Here you will find real luxury, real pedestrian brands, fine local craftsmanship, and emerging designers and concept stores. Though it was the first instance of forfeiture in the US, France has already enacted these laws banning counterfeit products. Since most luxury handbag brands are French, it’s no surprise that France was the first country to impose these regulations. Products sold by The RealReal need more scrutiny by knowledgeable people in order for the company and the entire resale market to have the credibility it needs to develop. First, it’s very hard to find experts who have enough knowledge to authenticate a wide range of products. Second, having more highly qualified experts on staff will increase costs.

Angry customers who realize they were duped may decide to take legal action against you. Under consumer protection laws, they can sue for compensation in civil court. And if you already resold some of the watches, you may have to refund those customers while eating the loss yourself.

Dupes are not exact replicas, but rather bags that are inspired by or bear a similar resemblance to a designer bag. These bags are usually much more affordable than the designer version. For example, there are many “dupes” for the popular Louis Vuitton Neverfull bag. However, because dupes are not exact copies, they are not as popular.

You will see two types of designs on authentic dustbags. Older styles and bags will have the Polene name with the logo design on top. Newer bags (my Dix, Neuf Mini, Micro, and Tonca all have these) are more minimalist, and don’t have the designed logo. Both designs of dustbags are made of the same heavyweight material. Counterfeit consumer goods—or counterfeit, fraudulent, and suspect items (CFSI)—are goods, often of inferior quality, made or sold under another’s brand name without the brand owner’s authorization.

Depicted as gift bags in various bright colors, patterns, sizes, and positions across platforms. Apple’s design, for instance, features a pink bag with light-pink dots in front of a gold bag with yellow stripes. Goods have been brought into the United States without the logos adorned on them in order to get past customs.[50] They are then finished within the country. This is due to the increase in seizing of product at borders.

He’s built a multi-million-dollar business on his knack for spotting a fashion fake. It’s taken hours upon hours poring over designer fashion items – mostly the real deal – to learn how to read the little tells others can’t see. Tory Burch is a popular and well-known brand, so spotting a fake when buying a genuine bag is essential. Scammers are getting better at making counterfeits, which makes it harder to tell what’s real.

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Check your clothes, bags or strollers for $3 per item. Single strollers are also allowed inside, but please note all items are subject to search upon entry. Check the photo above, and notice that the stitching on the left (fake) has a little tearing.

This paper includes details like the size, color, serial number, and QR code. Authentic chains will have a transparent, well-carved Tory Burch logo, as shown in the image. Scammers often struggle with this detail, so it’s a good indicator of authenticity. If it’s fixed and can’t be taken off, it’s likely a counterfeit. This logo is made from high-quality metal and crafted precisely on authentic bags, usually in shiny brass.

He now lives in Brooklyn and makes ceramics in his spare time. Mom pointed out a woman wearing a Louis Vuitton crossbody. “Let’s see if it’s real,” she whispered to me, and we crept over to her vicinity.

This allows counterfeiters to use extensive anonymity, it says. About 1.6 million Mercedes-Benz counterfeit parts were seized last year and 142,000 offers of counterfeit products deleted on social media and online platforms, a release says. Of course, I didn’t need to travel to Turkey to figure this out. But, the concept of buying goods brazenly marketed as genuine fake struck me as a genuine affront to all that is good in the world.

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Altogether, CBP officials intercepted 357 shipments of fake goods worth $71.4 million at the seaport. Among the articles seized were Christmas lights that could catch fire, food items that may have contained harmful ingredients, and handbags and shoes. “No one should think of piracy and counterfeiting as minor crimes,” said Robert Schoch, special agent in charge of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement office of investigations in Los Angeles. “In today’s world, [they] pose a serious threat to public safety and the economy.” The authentication process might entail a more meticulous inspection shoulderbagbrasil.com, but experts usually figure it out in seconds.

When you think of counterfeit, knockoff, and fake designer handbags, you probably picture streets full of vendors and tables of what look like elegant, high-end bags offered for the same price as yesterday’s dinner. Purchasing counterfeit goods not only harms a brand’s reputation and sales but also perpetuates unsafe working conditions in rogue manufacturing facilities. Moreover, counterfeit products may contain harmful substances and lack quality assurance, compromising consumer safety and longevity. Consumers are urged to conduct thorough research and purchase designer items from reputable sources to ensure authenticity and uphold ethical standards.

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Luxury fashion “now feels like it’s for everyone,” he said. “It’s readily available and accessible for everyone to see.” It’s a topic the fashion industry has been reluctant to talk about, according to Ben Gallagher.

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It seems that Gucci’s lawyers have not yet got their travel visa’s approved to come South of Houston Street for fear or reprisals from some very angry Chinese traders. Manufacturers of counterfeit handbags are getting more and more precise in copying legitimate pieces down to the smallest detail, making handbag authentication more challenging. Nonetheless, there are still a few signs such as those mentioned that may help you figure out if a bag is fake or not. While you’re still looking for the right bag, it’s advisable to purchase only from trusted stores and resellers. At the end of the day, wearing a fake designer bag will still not raise your class.

The handles on the fake Park tote were way stiffer than the handles of the real ones. Assuming it’s a newish bag, you can push down the center of the handles (when they’re standing up) of the real bag, and the body of the bag shouldn’t move. But on the fake one, since the handles are so stiff, when you push the center, it kind of lifts the edge of the bag from the table. On the con side, wearing a fake designer bag can be risky. If you’re caught carrying a replica, you could be subject to legal action from the designer. Additionally, replicas are often made with lower-quality materials, which means they won’t last as long as the real thing.

The counterfeiters are reactive to the increasing crackdown on the illegal business practice. Stock-rooms have been replaced with mobile shopping vans that are constantly moving and difficult to track. Expensive watches are vulnerable to counterfeiting as well. Notice on the picture how the label of the one on the right (fake) is slightly tilted, compared to the label on the left (authentic). This wouldn’t have passed the quality control of luxury brands.

Some counterfeit wholesalers keep goods no longer in stockrooms but in vans parked a few blocks away. Sometimes vendors will have customers stand on a street corner and wait for the vehicle to drive up. “The harder everyone works to stop the sale of counterfeit goods, the more inventive counterfeiters have to get,” says McDonald. “But no matter what we do, as long as there is a demand, there is always going to be a supply.” Speaking to the outlet, she said, “This bag unfortunately ended up being fake; it was real leather and felt like good quality. But I have found authentic Louis Vuitton and Chanel bags at the thrift store previously.” A woman from Winnipeg, Canada believed she had found the bargain of a lifetime at a nearby thrift store.

Another way to spot a fake bag is to examine the stitching and seams. Genuine bags are made with high-quality materials and are crafted with precision and attention to detail. Planning ahead and packing properly can facilitate the screening process and ease your travel experience at the airport. Know what you can pack in your carry-on and checked baggage before arriving at the airport by reviewing the lists below.

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This sign greeted a local traveler… France takes this seriously. Photo is from the border between Geneva and France/Lyon. A counterfeit handbag is basically a fake brand-name purse. Counterfeit bags and purses are made to look nearly identical to the original, pricier versions.

Jalloh also allegedly trafficked goods out of an offsite location in Manhattan, per the release. Sign up for PEOPLE’s free True Crime newsletter for breaking crime news, ongoing trial coverage and details of intriguing unsolved cases. According to the release, Adama Sow and Abdulai Jalloh were arrested Wednesday morning and charged with trafficking in counterfeit goods. Some trustworthy sites include Coach.com, Coachoutlet.com, and department stores that are official Coach retailers.

All the hardware elements, no matter how small, should still show these details. The law also ensures online marketplace users have a way to report suspicious conduct concerning high-volume third-party sellers, the FTC said. If you are not clear about your own value, and that you need a genuine fake product to prove something is true of you – but that it really isn’t – you need to stop and think deeply about this. With so much working in its favor, it really threw me off to see genuine fake goods offered so brazenly. It all comes down to the fact that everywhere, people want others to perceive them as successful. First, there is an image one conjures up by being seen in designer clothes.

Even some celebrities have been sporting the superfake merchandise. “The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City” star Jen Shah made headlines when federal agents seized dozens of counterfeit handbags found in her possession, after her arrest in 2021 for a telemarketing fraud scheme. There is a reason that we all want one of these bags – the designs are flawless and we are bombarded with images of the perfect outfit and it’s mainstay companion. Even fashion goddesses Samantha and Carrie buy a fake Fendi out of a trunk of a car in LA in an episode of Sex and The City.

“I think the number of fakes is definitely increasing at a very fast rate,” said Ben, whose team of authenticators spend their days sifting through an ever-growing glut of imitation fashion items. It’s a trend that’s being supercharged by social media platforms like TikTok and Instagram, where influencers flaunt luxury brands to a mass audience, and buying a designer bag or a pair of sneakers is only a click away. The accessibility of the internet has made more people aware of the reality of fake designer bags. In fact, unlike in the past where you would fool many people with a fake designer, most people today can immediately tell when the bag is a counterfeit channel or Armani. If you’re not-so-lucky and your friends or family members learn that your bags are fake designer they will label you a wanna-be, which may negatively affect your self-esteem.

This is the world of designer bag replica enthusiasts. They ask each other to check the authenticity of sellers; they leave reviews on what stitching was perfect; they transfer and bargain with each other; and they keep up to date with the hottest replicas on the market. It almost feels like a little Ocean’s 8 community of naughty wheelers and dealers around the world.

It adds counterfeit paper air filters seized in May and June can cause serious accidents after installations. Other counterfeit parts seized include brake, wheel, body and steering parts. The release says all the parts were destroyed after seizure. Nicole Oshay, 21, may have been from of Nashville, but she was no rube. She scored a knockoff Louis Vuitton handbag for $70 after a brief negotiation. In his spare time Joseph nurtures his interests in art, fashion, design, good food, traveling, and exploring his new home town, New York City.

The best way to avoid counterfeit handbags is to buy only from trusted stores. Ensure that the luxury resale market you visit only provides legitimate bags. Their pieces might be more expensive than questionable stores, but they guarantee authenticity. We’ve received luxury bag authentication tips from experts. They often mention that one of the biggest signs of a counterfeit handbag is its questionable font. It’s probably the first thing you need to check to inspect the authenticity of your designer item.

Do you honestly think eBay can employ enough people with knowledge of each of those items to vet listings in real time? As for your report, it’s your opinion vs the seller’s. Ebay has no idea who you are, or if you’re working with a seller to take down the competition.

Officers provided advice to the defendant, who claimed that she had sold her own personal items. The lining also gives away if a bag is authentic or fake. Some designer bags have a raw lining to show off the quality of the leather – it’s not hidden or painted, unlike some that use synthetic leather. Regarding other effective technological solutions, to gain more control on counterfeits, without involving their legal team in a time-consuming and mechanical task of manually scanning the web.

Opting for authentic products from the beginning can help prevent these harmful effects. It is important to remember that the fact that counterfeit products are illegal actually accelerates these negative results. Choosing to purchase authentic items not only supports ethical production practices but actually protects the environment.

If the bag is a Horseshoe stamp bag, which is a custom order, or an exotic, there’s a symbol, and on fake bags, it’s often improperly placed. In the resale world, the price of bags is a bit arbitrary. A Hermès Kelly bag may cost $10,900 in the store, but it sells on the secondary market for $36,000 because the demand outweighs the supply. When I started in 2014, online reselling was looked down upon; no one wanted to say they bought their bag anywhere but the brand itself. Purchasing in the secondary market is now widely accepted. “Some of the things counterfeiting is funding is, in particular, terrorism financing,” she said.

If you’re travelling by air, make sure you know what you’re allowed to have in your carry-on and checked baggage. As she continued to look, a red leather bag that looked very familiar caught the seasoned bargainer’s eye. In this article from the Wall Street Journal, Elizabeth Bernstein, who works with second-hand luxury retailer Portero, offers advice on how to tell a fraud from the real deal. Sign up to receive exclusive venue presales and info on the latest upcoming events. Meeting the needs of our Guests with disabilities at the Kia Forum is a never-ending commitment—we want to make your visit with us an enjoyable and unforgettable experience. Please visit our Disabled Services page for a full range of our accommodations, programs and policies.

Always verify the legitimacy of the message before sharing confidential information. I would definitely think those bags are not authentic. The former Hermès workers would make the bags with crocodile skins from an Italian supplier, using zips and other components smuggled out of Hermès workshops. And i would say, if you mingle with people who are used to all original stuff, they could sense a fake item from afar. This issue is more on the psychological aspect of a person.

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Despite counterfeit sellers conducting business publicly, law enforcement said it’s difficult to crack down on their activity. While most declined to respond, one seller disclosed that the operation is often exceedingly discreet, with each link of the process isolated from the others. The precision and attention to detail put into making replica handbags have made it easier for them to pass off as genuine luxury products, with hardly any noticeable differences to the untrained eye.

So, before you click “add to cart,” think about what you’re really getting—and whether it’s worth it. At Lunar New Year two months later, I scanned the temple for brand-name logos out of habit, but I quickly lost interest. My trance was broken; it was hard for me to care what people wore.

So we ordered as a family, our table fuller than it had ever been, a steaming mass of crustaceans and fries before us. Dad picked up a crab leg, cracked it open with the metal tool, and handed it to Mom. He created crab spears for each of us, and he cheered us before dipping his crab claw into butter. Upon taking my first bite, I realized we hadn’t eaten all day. We sat there, burning away the two hours we had left in the meter, while he called us useless dogs and other names. His eyes darkened, blank in trance, as he yelled and jabbed his finger into our faces—cheap cinnamon cologne whipping our nostrils.

The industry has clutched onto the accessory and used it as a mouthpiece for status and style in a love story as old as time itself. Eye-watering prices of over $200,000 for a Hermés Birkin or remortgaging your house to get your mitts on a Chanel is now the norm, and showing off your new arm candy on social media is simply a must. Louis Vuitton (LVMH) is by far the most counterfeited handbag company in the world. Their bags are the most common fakes available online.